I agree STILLEN is overpriced. and every other time you call there it seems the price is different , like you have to catch them on a good day.. I have a stillen exhaust which was alot of moeny, but i do have to admit i was pleased with it... But i think i did over pay.. And that was one of the items they gave me like 10 different prices for.. I doubt i'll be doin business with them soon. especially not for turbo upgrades!!!